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		<title>Orange Alpine 160&#8217;s</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gareth</dc:creator>
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The new bikes have arrived! They look unbelievably &#8220;bling&#8221;. I have been lucky enough to have this day in May for 8 years now. It&#8217;s one of the best bits of the job. This year we have a 16&#8243; and an 18&#8243; Orange Alpine 160.

I thought I&#8217;d pull the &#8220;prototype to this bike out of [...]]]></description>
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<p>The new bikes have arrived! They look unbelievably &#8220;bling&#8221;. I have been lucky enough to have this day in May for 8 years now. It&#8217;s one of the best bits of the job. This year we have a 16&#8243; and an 18&#8243; <a href="http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/2009bikes/bike.php?model_id=105" target="_blank">Orange Alpine 160</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-together.jpg" rel="lightbox[541]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-543" title="orange-alpine-together" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-together-300x251.jpg" alt="orange-alpine-together" width="300" height="251" /></a></p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d pull the &#8220;prototype to this bike out of the garage and make some compare and contrast notes. Apart from the component differences there are a number of obvious frame differences.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a rel="lightbox" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-differences-2.jpg" rel="lightbox[541]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-544" title="orange-alpine-differences-2" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-differences-2-300x251.jpg" alt="orange-alpine-differences-2" width="300" height="251" /></a></p>
<ol>
<li>The rear swing-arm is bigger and beefier (it looks stiffer) with more mud clearance than the old one.</li>
<li>The headangle is .75 degrees steeper than the old (it is 66.4 degrees according to my iphone)</li>
<li>The bottom bracket is 1.5cm higher</li>
<li>It has a maxle rear axle, should be stiffer.</li>
<li>Sexy new hydroformed? tubes and a frontend that is 1 or 2cm higher than the old bike.</li>
<li>It has more travel, they say 160 mm compared to 130 mm but who knows?</li>
</ol>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a rel="lightbox" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-16.jpg" rel="lightbox[541]"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-546" title="orange-alpine-16" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-16-300x251.jpg" alt="orange-alpine-16" width="300" height="251" /></a><a rel="lightbox" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-new-brakes.jpg" rel="lightbox[541]"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-545" title="orange-alpine-new-brakes" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-alpine-new-brakes-300x251.jpg" alt="orange-alpine-new-brakes" width="300" height="251" /></a></p>
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		<title>Avoriaz Ski Randonee</title>
		<link>http://www.chaletgeorge.com/2009/04/27/avoriaz-ski-randonee/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gareth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The annual end of season ski randonee (ski mountaineering) race was held in Avoriaz yesterday.  There are 4 courses (Elite, Grand, Petit, Mini), Francesca Eyre and I entered the Grand (1400m of ascent) and Lee and Sian entered the Petit (1000m of ascent).
The results were:
Francesca and Gareth 2hrs 7min (last year 2hrs 18min).
Lee and Sian [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The annual end of season ski randonee (ski mountaineering) race was held in Avoriaz yesterday.  There are 4 courses (Elite, Grand, Petit, Mini), Francesca Eyre and I entered the Grand (1400m of ascent) and Lee and Sian entered the Petit (1000m of ascent).</p>
<p>The results were:</p>
<p>Francesca and Gareth 2hrs 7min (last year 2hrs 18min).</p>
<p>Lee and Sian 2hrs 3min (last year 2 hrs 11min), they&#8217;d have been 5minutes quicker if they had actually made it to the start line on time!</p>
<p>Full results can be found on the <a href="http://www.cafmorzine.com/coursesenvrac.htm">CAF Morzine</a> website.</p>

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		<title>Orange Five for sale</title>
		<link>http://www.chaletgeorge.com/2008/10/04/orange-five-for-sale/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gareth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a Five S with a fork upgrade (to a Fox 140 QR) and a hub upgrade (2 Hope Pro II&#8217;s), the retail price is £2,064.95.
The Wheels, tyres and rear mech are all new and unused. The spec list is:
Colour 	 Pearl Black
Fork 	 Fox Float 32 140mm QR
R shock  Fox Float RP23
R [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a Five S with a fork upgrade (to a Fox 140 QR) and a hub upgrade (2 Hope Pro II&#8217;s), the retail price is £2,064.95.</p>
<div id="attachment_186" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a rel="lightbox" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-5.jpg" rel="lightbox[185]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-186" title="orange-5" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-5-300x225.jpg" alt="Orange Five" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">18&quot; Orange Five</p></div>
<p>The Wheels, tyres and rear mech are all new and unused. The spec list is:</p>
<p>Colour 	 Pearl Black<br />
Fork 	 Fox Float 32 140mm QR<br />
R shock  Fox Float RP23<br />
R Mech 	 Shimano LX<br />
Shifters Shimano Deore R Fire +<br />
ChainSet Truvativ Firex 3.1 GXP<br />
Cassette SRAM PG950<br />
Brakes 	 Avid Juicy 3 185/160<br />
Hubs 	Hope Pro II&#8217;s<br />
Rims 	WTB SpeedDisc AM<br />
Spoke 	DT Swiss Competition S/S Black<br />
Tyres 	Continental Mountain King 2.4</p>
<p>It was purchased in June 2008 and has had a total of about 3 weeks use. The frame has been protected with Helicopter tape (which is still on). It looks mint!</p>
<p> </p>
<p><div id="attachment_187" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-5_a.jpg" rel="lightbox[185]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-187" title="orange-5_a" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange-5_a-300x225.jpg" alt="Click here for more pictures" width="300" height="225" /></a><br />
<a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange 5_b.jpg"></a><br />
<a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/orange 5_c.jpg"></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Click here for more pictures</p></div>Please note:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1. That the seat-pin in these pictures got sold with another bike, the seat-pin with this bike is scuffed up &#8211; it works fine, it just doesn&#8217;t look so good! The saddle however is new.</p>
<p>2. The bottom bracket is worn and needs replacing. It&#8217;s a Truvativ GXP (so not interchangeable with anything else) and neither Chain Reaction or Wiggle have them in stock. If you are OK with the bike as is then the price is £1320, otherwise hang on and you can have a new BB for a total price of £1350.</p>
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		<title>Tour du Mt Blanc, by mountain bike</title>
		<link>http://www.chaletgeorge.com/2008/09/19/tmb-by-mountain-bike/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gareth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[TMB Sept 15th to 19th, 2008
6100m of ascent, 138km over 3.5 days, our version of the TMB by MTB.
We had been talking about the Tour du Mt Blanc all summer. The time was set for &#8220;sometime from the middle of September&#8221;. The main decider would be the weather. None of us were willing to set out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>TMB Sept 15th to 19th, 2008</strong></p>
<p><a rel="lightbox" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2871107070_738fdba93d_b.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 10px;" title="tmb pic 1" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2871107070_738fdba93d_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a>6100m of ascent, 138km over 3.5 days, our version of the TMB by MTB.</p>
<p>We had been talking about the <a title="Permanent Link to &quot;Tour du Mt Blanc, by mountain bike&quot;" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/2008/09/19/tmb-by-mountain-bike/">Tour du Mt Blanc</a> all summer. The time was set for &#8220;sometime from the middle of September&#8221;. The main decider would be the weather. None of us were willing to set out on this trip without a good forecast!</p>
<p>We did a little research on the route. The people we know who had done it were split on direction &#8220;clockwise or anti-clockwise&#8221;, I spoke with <a href="http://www.ridethealps.com" target="_blank">Jamie Carr</a> who convinced us to go &#8220;anti&#8221;, against the flow for most parties. He made a good argument though. It went along the lines of:</p>
<ol>
<li>More rideable</li>
<li>Less road</li>
<li>You get to do the &#8220;Bovine&#8221; section which would be avoided otherwise.</li>
<li>What&#8217;s the point going clockwise just so you can use the lifts at Le Tour? &#8211; They&#8217;ll be closed in September anyway.</li>
<li>What does it matter??</li>
</ol>
<p>I liked pt 5, on a multi day circular trip the direction augments should equal out, shouldn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Sian and Carl spotted a clear spell and gathered the troops with 24hrs notice. The team dropped from 6 to 4. Xaver had to travel from Munich, a good effort. He wasn&#8217;t at all sure about the chosen direction. We had to gang up on him.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #ff0000;">We took over 600 photos, the best 92 can be found </span><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/endlessride/sets/72157607360348394/">HERE</a></em></p>
<p><strong>Day 1. Ascent, 1300m Distance, 11km</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mtbguru.com/trip/show/7388-tmb-day-1 ">CLICK HERE FOR THE ROUTE ON DAY1 </a></p>
<p>A half day really. I&#8217;m not good at getting ready the day before so had<a rel="lightbox" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2870294547_c72bd099b1_b.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"><img class="alignright" style="margin: 10px;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2870294547_c72bd099b1_b.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a> timetable a 2pm start from Les Contamines. A cold front had just swept through the Alps leaving snow down to about 2200m. It was going to be cold! We set off from the carpark (1200m) at Notre Dame de la Gorge and managed to ride the flat 500m until the path started upwards. We were reduced to pushing within 2 minutes of starting! A combination of pushing and riding so us arrive at the <a href="http://lerefugedubonhomme.free.fr/index2.html">Refuge du Col Croix du Bonhomme</a> (2433m)at about 5.30pm. I had rung ahead to check the hut was open. It was. I&#8217;m pretty sure the person I had spoken to had said that it was &#8220;non-gardé&#8221;, I only realised this when we discovered that it was in fact &#8220;non-gardé&#8221;, bugger. Thankfully it had just been vacated by the guadian, this meant that there was plenty of left-over food for us. 2 others had been caught out in the same way, the hut was stocked with wood for the fire and gas for the stove. All in all much more relaxing than when these places are staffed and all for 10€.</p>
<p><strong>Day 2. Ascent, 1700m Distance, 36km</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mtbguru.com/trip/show/7389-tmb-day-2 " target="_blank">CLICK HERE FOR THE ROUTE ON DAY2 </a></p>
<p>This morning was cold with occasional mist. We could see the day would end up perfect but to start with it was well below freezing. We were not up for what was obviously a fairly difficult descent until it had thawed somewhat.<a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bonhomme.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-111 alignleft" style="margin: 10px;" title="bonhomme" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bonhomme-300x216.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a><a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/frost.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"></a><a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/sianbig.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"></a><a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/peutery.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"></a></p>
<p>We waited until 10am, at least the ground had defrosted. We rode the tricky singletrack down to Les Chapieux. We had an early lunch at the <a href="http://www.refugelanova.com/" target="_blank">Refuge de la Nova</a>, more of a guest house really. Open most of the year. From here it was a 900m grunt up to the Col de la Seigne (2516m), by this time the weather was pretty much perfect.  We descended down to the Val Veni, before we got to Courmayeur we included am excursion (another 500m of climbing) up onto the South side of the valley. As we started so late in the day and hadn&#8217;t eaten much this was fairly painful. Well worth it though for the riding and the views. By the time we dropped into the valley the sun had long disappeared and it was quite chill again. We had talked to a local about the best way to get to the <a href="http://www.hotelastoriacourmayeur.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&amp;Itemid=1" target="_blank">Hotel</a>, it involved a clever dirt road near the exit to the Mt Blanc tunnel and saved us a fair amount of faff.</p>
<p><strong>Day 3. Ascent, 1400m Distance, 47km</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mtbguru.com/trip/show/7390-tmb-day-3 " target="_blank">CLICK HERE FOR THE ROUTE ON DAY3<br />
</a></p>
<p>We set off in better time this morning, the gentle ride up the Italian Val Ferret was another freezing affair, a great looking spot though, much more American than European. <a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/savvy.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-111 alignleft" style="margin: 10px;" title="savvy" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/savvy.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="270" /></a><a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/single.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"></a><a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/mountain bike.jpg"></a>We reached the end of the tarmac in about an hour and a half. Here we could not pass up the opportunity for a coffee and cake. We had come to the conclusion that the only places that were open at this time of year would have tarmac leading to them (we were not wrong), this left some quite large distances between refreshments. The slog over the Col du Grand Ferret was very slippery that day. The descent was on the sunny side so had dried up. The track was a real highlight of the trip. Towards the bottom we came to a farm. We believe a left turn here would have led to more singletrack. Lunch in La Fouly was calling and we missed it out. The rest of the ride down the valley bottom was world class. We rode right to the bottom of the valley to spend a sneaky night at a friends house. The purists would have climbed up to Champex Lac.</p>
<p><strong>Day 4. Ascent, 1700m Distance, 44km</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mtbguru.com/trip/show/7391-tmb-day-4 " target="_blank">CLICK HERE FOR THE ROUTE ON DAY4</a></p>
<p>After a lift up to Champex Lac (that saved 800m of tarmac climbing) we had our second coffee of the morning and still managed to get going before 9.30am. <a rel="lightbox[roadtrip]" href="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/traverse.jpg" rel="lightbox[93]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-126 alignright" style="margin: 10px;" title="traverse" src="http://www.chaletgeorge.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/traverse-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a>We had feared this next section for a while. It had been described as a 1hr &#8220;carry&#8221;, 500m of ascent, we had actually avoided much carrying up until today and Sian especially didn&#8217;t fancy her chances on this. None of us ride particularly light weight bikes! As it turns out it was very hard work. We know one thing though, you&#8217;ll not be riding this climb in reverse, it&#8217;ll be another hour of carrying.  Once we&#8217;d dealt with the carry it was all good singletrack from then until the col de la Forclaz. Well worth the effort. We had lunch here &#8211; BIG MISTAKE, it&#8217;s a tourist trap. Next time we&#8217;ll head down to Trient for better value. We knew the riding from here on, we climbed up to reservoir above Vallorcine (another 500m) and descended the new Vallorcine downhill course, we sneaked a traverse in to Le Buet and then headed to the <a href="http://www.mbchx.com/eng%20mbc%20home.htm">MBC in Chamonix</a> the fasted off road route we know. The weather was threatening to break.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusions</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>Is &#8220;anti&#8221; the best way around &#8211; who knows? We&#8217;ll do it &#8220;clockwise&#8221; next time just to see.</li>
<li>We&#8217;d definitely wait for good weather, the break in the weather we went for worked out perfectly.</li>
<li>Would we advise going on an organised trip? Definitely, just imagine what you&#8217;d do if you had an injury, a mechanical or an illness? <a href="http://www.ridethealps.com">RidetheAlps</a> would be my first suggestion for an &#8220;anti&#8221; trip. We had various advantages over most. We have all worked as <a href="http://www.endlessride.com/php/events.php" target="_blank">bike guides</a> in the Alps for over 5 years and we know people on both sides of Mt Blanc who can help us out if needed. We ride <a href="http://www.endlessride.com/php/bikes.php">strong well tested bikes</a> and we don&#8217;t break them!</li>
<li>Would we do it again? Like a shot &#8211; either way round.</li>
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